Oliver Holecek of Primo Chocolate (Ep. 67)
Oliver Holecek co-founded Primo Chocolate—at the time known as Primo Botanica—in 2017 as a bean to bar chocolate company. The business has changed in process and focus over the years, and Primo is now heavily focused on incorporating mushrooms into chocolate as a way to promote the functional health benefits of these fungal friends. Listen in as Oliver talks about the background of his business, his passion for mushrooms, and the importance of centering Indigenous cultures when working with natural ingredients.
Bite Sized: 5 Minutes with Anna Seear of Ritual Chocolate on Honeycomb Toffee 75%
In this episode of Bean to Barstool Bite Sized we talk with Anna Seear of Ritual Chocolate in Utah. Ritual makes a line of bars inspired by the surrounding Utah wilderness, and one of these bars honors Utah's nickname as The Beehive State. Ritual uses wildflower honey from local Hollow Tree Honey for this delightful bar. Listen in as Anna talks about how honey gets used in this bar and the importance of preserving and supporting pollinators.
Cacao Pulp in Brewing with Leila Carvajal Erker and Sam Mosle (Ep. 66)
In this episode we talk with Leila Carvajal Erker about Cocoa Supply’s new cacao pulp products for brewers, as well as Sam Mosle, the head brewer at Wind River Brewing in Pinedale, Wyoming, who recently brewed a Blonde Ale with cacao pulp. We also discuss a similar beer brewed by Jon Naghski at Fifth Street Brewpub in Dayton, Ohio.
Blackest in the Forest: Bartender & Pastry Chef Michael George on Cocktails, Cacao, & Celebrating Self
Mixologist and pastry chef Michael George recently won the prestigious Black Manhattan Contest put on by the Black Bourbon Society with two cocktails that tell amazing stories and push the boundaries of flavor. One of those drinks—named the Blackest in the Forest—was made using cacao and chocolate from Ritual Chocolate, and tells the story of Michael’s roots—where they’ve been, where they are now, and where they’re going.
Quick Bonus Episode: Pairing Witbier & Hefeweizen with Craft Chocolate
What types of craft chocolate should you pair with Belgian Witbier and Bavarian Hefeweizen, two both standard strength wheat ales with expressive fermentation flavors? Listen is an Advanced Cicerone David Nilsen, author of Pairing Beer & Chocolate, describes these styles and recommends craft chocolate bars to pair with them.
Coffee & Cacao
In this episode we talk with Kyle Bellinger of Osito Coffee who imports both coffee and cacao from Colombia to North America and Europe and Hans Westerink of Violet Sky Chocolate and Cloud Walking Coffee in South Bend, Indiana. I talked with Kyle and Hans recently about these amazing crops, what they have in common, and what the industries can learn from each other.
How to Taste with Author Mandy Naglich
Mandy Naglich has written a book that explores how our senses interact with food and beverage, and how understanding our senses can help us better enjoy our favorite indulgences. How to Taste: A Guide to Discovering Flavor and Savoring Life (Citadel) combines science and whimsy to teach us more about our sensory world and bring our favorite flavors to life. Listen in as we talk with Mandy Naglich about her book How to Taste.
Leila Carvajal of Cocoa Supply
In this episode Leila Carvajal of Cocoa Supply tells us the story of her family’s company, a story that begins on a small cacao farm in Ecuador in the 1800s. She talks about their business and sourcing practices, the cacao farms they work with, and the products they offer for bean to bar chocolate makers and craft breweries.
Beer Basics (for Chocolate Lovers…and Everyone Else)
Today we’re going to demystify beer by talking about beer ingredients, brewing processes, and frequently asked questions. This will hopefully make beer easy to understand for the chocolate lovers who listen to this show, or anyone who wants to better understand this beverage without being talked over, or talked down to. Some of this will sound complicated at first, but we’ll go through it step by step!
Bite Sized: 5 Minutes with Emily Stone of Uncommon Cacao
In today's episode of Bean to Barstool Bite Sized we talk with Emily Stone of Uncommon Cacao, one of the leading companies providing ethically and traceably sourced cacao for bean to bar chocolate makers. Emily talks about the process of beginning a relationship with a new partner at origin and her desire for transparency in cacao sourcing to be a two way street between farmers and makers.
Arron Liu of Chocobien (Ep. 60)
In this episode David Nilsen talks with Arron Liu of Chocobien in Hong Kong. Chocobien is a bean to bar chocolate company that produces many truly unique bars that employ flavors and ingredients from other artisan food and beverage segments, including beer, whiskey, coffee, sake, tea, and more. Arron talks about the ideas behind these bars, the partnerships and processes that went into their development, and the satisfaction this curious and creative maker finds in achieving the flavors he could only hold in his imagination at the start of each experiment.
Bite Sized: 5 Minutes with Hazel Lee of Taste with Colour
In this episode of Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, we spend about 5 minutes with Hazel Lee, the creator of Taste with Colour: The Chocolate Tasting Flavor Map. The map allows people to use color to identify flavors, and Hazel talks about how this process can be beneficial to folks of all levels of tasting experience, and why no one should feel intimidated when sharing their own tasting impressions.
Cacao Fermentation with Sarah Bharath (Ep. 59)
In this episode we take a deep dive into cacao fermentation with Sarah Bharath. Sarah works with cacao farmers in Trinidad & Tobago on behalf of Meridian Cacao, assisting them in improving their farming and post-harvest processes. Sarah is both a passionate advocate for cacao farmers and an inquisitive researcher whose curiosity drives her enthusiasm for always learning more about this fascinating crop. Today we talk all about the cacao fermentation process, how the variables of that process impact the flavors of chocolate, and how climate change is forcing farmers and scientists to constantly adapt to new realities.
Bite Sized: 5 Minutes with Natalie Suwanprakorn of Xoconat
In this episode of Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, we spend about 5 minutes with Natalie Suwanprakorn of Xoconat in Bangkok, Thailand. Nat makes her Up in Smoke bar by smoking cacao nibs over a Thai aromatic candle often used for Thai desserts. It’s a wonderfully evocative bar, and your reaction to it will largely depend on whether or not you have a cultural familiarity with the smoke of this candle. I didn’t, and it brought to mind bibliosmia, the smell of old books - quite a comforting and intriguing quality for this book lover. Listen in as Nat shares the story of this bar, how it was made, and its significance for her as a Thai chocolate maker.
Estelle Tracy on Pairing Wine & Chocolate (Ep. 58)
In this episode we talk with Estelle Tracy. Estelle leads wine and chocolate pairings through her business 37 Chocolates. In this conversation, Estelle and I talk about the differences and similarities between pairing craft chocolate with wine and beer, how she got started with chocolate and wine, and what she’s learned along the way.
Quick Bonus Episode: Final Gravity Zine & Patreon Launch!
Bean to Barstool host & Final Gravity co-editor David Nilsen shares details about the forthcoming Final Gravity zine—a new quarterly print beer publication—as well as the launch of the Final Gravity Patreon to support it! Listen in to get all the exciting details about this project and learn how you can be involved.
Hi-Wire Brewing’s 10W-40 Chocolate Imperial Stouts (Ep. 57)
In this episode we talk with brewers at Hi-Wire Brewing in Asheville, North Carolina, about 10W-40, a family of Imperial Stouts brewed with French Broad cacao, Dynamite coffee, and Ugandan vanilla. We talk with Peter Batinski, head brewer at Hi-Wire’s South Slope location in Asheville, where he trials many of Hi-Wire’s beers and leads innovation, and Hank Marshall, head brewer at the Big Top, Hi-Wire’s production brewery near Biltmore Village in Asheville.
Bite Sized: 5 Minutes with Artist Annabelle Popa
In this episode of Bean to Barstool Bite Sized we hear from Annabelle Popa, an artist and graphic designer who has created many of the eye catching labels for Rabid Brewing in the south suburbs of Chicago. When you enter Rabid’s taproom, you’re greeted by an enormous 9'x16' mural hanging over the bar that depicts a fanciful scene telling a mythological version of beer’s origin story. Annabelle painted that mural, and here she talks about the creation process for that and the creative give and take of designing beer labels.
Arcelia Gallardo of Mission Chocolate (Ep. 56)
In this episode we talk with Arcelia Gallardo, the founder and chocolate maker at Mission Chocolate in Sao Paolo, Brazil. Arcelia has taken a long and winding road to making world class chocolate in Brazil, and as she’ll explain, her own journey is interwoven with the growth of the cacao industry and bean to bar chocolate scene in Brazil over the last decade. Arcelia also talks about the exciting craft beer scene in Brazil right now, and its relationship to cacao.
Bite Sized: 5 Minutes with Erica Gilmour of Hummingbird Chocolate
In this episode of Bean to Barstool Bite Sized, host David Nilsen spends five minutes with Erica Gilmour of Hummingbird Chocolate. Hummingbird is in Lanark County, Ontario, the maple sugar capital of a region known for its maple. Fittingly, they make a bar that celebrates this sweet regional distinctive, and as the maple run is currently in full swing, we felt it was a good time to share Erica’s thoughts on working with this evocative ingredient.